what is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
Londo111
(True…which is why the best people to consult would be those who study cults, like Hassan, Lipton, Festinger and other trained professionals, rather than say...Joe Sixpack)
Guilty as charge. That's the problem when we are still in, we only listen to what the GB said a cult was. The only difference is the GB don't have a sixpack.
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
what is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
I personally try not to use the word cult anymore. If you use that word with a JW, they will run the 100 yard dash in 9 seconds flat. And that includes grandmothers. I have found that if I use the term "High Control Groups." they will at least listen to what I have to say.
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
StarTrekAngel
Wishfully thinking here... I do believe what you say, but I wish there was a way to show JWs the evidence that this is what goes on
Even if there was evidence, the members would just say, "OH MY" and life would continue like nothing happen. Like the old song use to say, "Keep Your Eyes on the Prize"
I'm actually am getting very pessimistic about waking them up.
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
J.A., you've left in exciting times.
Tell me about it, it’s been one freaking ride. The good thing though is that all the changes have made my decision a lot, lot easier. I have never doubted leaving because of all the crazy things they started doing right as soon as I left. They have actually help me leave the WT without any reservations.
Expect AWAKE to go away or go 100% digital, maybe WATCHTOWER too. Conventions will be smaller and crammed into Assembly Halls way more than before. Expect Friday sessions to end (if they haven't already).
I agree with your thoughts.
Maybe they will start charging $3 to park a car at Assembly Halls
They are already doing that where I live except it’s $7 per car. They did have some kind of fight because first they picked up the money at the Kingdom hall then when the friends went to the assembly, no one was asking for the parking tickets. So what happen to all the money they picked up at the Khall??????
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
How did you justify that to yourself? I think that would have woke me up right away.
It was for Jehovah!!!!!
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
StarTrekAngel
Ever wondered where the "cost" of an assembly comes from
I haven't read the post, but when I was an elder, I was in charge of accounting at the assemblies. Right before the elder's meeting after the assembly, I would get together with the assembly overseer and the CO and we always had more than enough money. But we would manipulate the wording to make it seem we were short. One time we had over $30,000 and the assembly overseer said; "if we tell the friends we've gotten this much, they will stop contributing" So we picked a number a few hundred dollars below actually costs and say those famous words; "Friends, we know you will do the right thing"
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
StarTrekAngel
We will eventually see TV commercials and potentially full blown hollywood style movies, like "Fireproof" or "Heaven is for real"
You know I thought about that, maybe even have some famous JW as a spokesperson Like Coco Rocha.
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
tim3l0rd
I definitely see them suggesting a per publisher rate that the congregations should donate to WT each month similar to what they do for assemblies.
I'm not familiar with that, but if the rate is $10 per publisher, they really can't enforce it can they? This is actually news to me.
Heck, I didn't know that either.StarTrekAngel
the automatic recurrent doanation on jw-org already exists.
steve2
I have a hunch - and nothing to base it on - that the annual worldwide report on JWs, currently published in the JW Yearbook, will be changed in some way - or stopped altogether within the next 5 to 8 years
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
It’s been a little over 2 years since I left the Watchtower. In that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of JWTV, JW-ORG. – Carts for preaching, removed District Overseers, Cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the TMSchool
What are we going to see in the next two years?
They are lousy at investing in the stock market, so I say they are going to get in the housing real-estate market.
They have to come up with new ways of making money.
